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Move To Head Off Gun Violence
The Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | Jan. 06, 2005 | Vernon Clark

A new court takes aim at what the D.A. called the city's "most important problem" - the illegal use of firearms.

Noting other states' success in prosecuting armed suspects, city, state and federal officials yesterday announced the creation of a "gun court" in Philadelphia to help reduce violence from illegal possession of firearms.

Hailing the new court, which will begin hearing cases on Monday at Philadelphia Common Pleas Court, State Rep. Dwight Evans, Philadelphia District Attorney Lynne M. Abraham, U.S. Attorney Patrick L. Meehan, and others said the gun court is one part of an overall strategy against gun violence in Philadelphia.

"The singular, most important problem in Philadelphia surely is gun violence and the protection of our children and young people," Abraham said.

The city's top prosecutor said that because the new court will focus on people whose most serious crime is illegally carrying a gun, it will help prevent people from using a gun to injure or kill.

Her comments came just hours before a shooting near a North Philadelphia high school left a teenager with a head wound.

Police have reported four homicides so far this year; all involved firearms. There were 328 homicides in Philadelphia last year, with 8 in 10 involving guns.

The plan for the gun court emerged from an April meeting of elected officials and community activists after the February death of 10-year-old Faheem Thomas-Childs, who had been shot outside T.M. Peirce Elementary School in North Philadelphia.

Gun courts in the New York borough of Brooklyn and in Rhode Island have resulted in felony convictions, putting gun-wielding defendants in jail.

The gun court in Philadelphia will be held in the Criminal Justice Center, 1301 Filbert St. Common Pleas Court Judge Jeffrey P. Minehart will preside, officials said.

Cases will be assigned to a pretrial-services case manager who will monitor defendants while they are on bail. Those defendants also will be required to attend a gun-education program, officials said.

People convicted in gun court will receive sentences that include a county jail term or probation. They will have individually tailored probation terms including a "social service component." Abraham emphasized that defendants also would receive strict supervision.

"I expect this to be the Number One in the country," said state Supreme Court Justice Sandra Schultz Newman. "I hope a year from today I'll be able to turn to Congressman Evans to say this is the Number One gun court in the nation."

The court, which is funded by $525,000 from the state, will hear cases involving violations of the Uniform Firearms Act. Those cases include people charged with carrying a firearm without a license; carrying a gun on a public street or in a public place; and possession of a gun by a convicted felon, officials said. About 400 such cases will be immediately transferred to the gun court, officials said.

Cases involving more serious charges, such as robbery or murder, will continue to be heard in Common Pleas Court.

"What we're doing today represents a continuing effort to take a proactive and intelligent approach to trying to track this problem and meet it head on," said U.S. Attorney Meehan.

Police Commissioner Sylvester M. Johnson said: "It is very, very important that we get involved with guns and gun violence. This takes a holistic approach... . Guns have devastated this city... . Something has to be done."

Sue-Ellen Bienenfeld, bureau chief of Brooklyn Gun Court, said the court there opened in May 2003. The court has handled 520 cases, with 270 resulting in felony pleas. Of those 270 cases, 93 percent have resulted in a year or more in jail, a 251 percent increase in incarcerations for gun crimes.

She said that since the court was created, violent crime in New York has declined by 6 percent. Mayor Michael Bloomberg credited the Brooklyn gun court for the drop, Bienenfeld said.

In Rhode Island, Mike Healy, a spokesman for state Attorney General Patrick C. Lynch, said the gun court created in 1994 has helped move firearms cases more quickly. The average gun case took up to 512 days from arrest to disposition in 1994. Since then, the cases have taken an average of 165 days to disposition.

J. Whyatt Mondesire, president of the Philadelphia branch of the NAACP, said the problem of gun violence in the city "has to be handled in every possible way... . We've got to find a long-term solution to this problem."
 

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I just saw a flurry of TV commercials brought to us by The Ad Council concerning "guncrimes."
The most memorable was this little white kid sitting next to a basketball court in the middle of the projects saying something like:
"When my brother commited a guncrime, he was sentenced to seven years. I didn't just lose my brother, I lost my best friend."

It looks like we're faced with an Admin that wont use the GOP dirtyword "guncontrol" so they are saying "guncrimes" instead.

Its like Ive always said:
Democrats want to outlaw firearms for the public's safety; Republicans want to outlaw firearms for the nation's security.


Hmm..Looks like I got myself a new sigline.
 

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DADDY WARBUCKS
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D.B.Cooper said:
I just saw a flurry of TV commercials brought to us by The Ad Council concerning "guncrimes."
The most memorable was this little white kid sitting next to a basketball court in the middle of the projects saying something like:
"When my brother commited a guncrime, he was sentenced to seven years. I didn't just lose my brother, I lost my best friend."

It looks like we're faced with an Admin that wont use the GOP dirtyword "guncontrol" so they are saying "guncrimes" instead.

Its like Ive always said:
Democrats want to outlaw firearms for the public's safety; Republicans want to outlaw firearms for the nation's security.


Hmm..Looks like I got myself a new sigline.
I wish you would start attending our secret meetings. If you are on the list you can keep your guns when we take them away from the peons.
 

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Custer said:
I wish you would start attending our secret meetings. If you are on the list you can keep your guns when we take them away from the peons.
Custer, while our increasing agreement on various issues here has been the biggest news since the signing of the German-Soviet Nonaggression Pact, there's no reason to so blatantly violate the security precautions of our organizations.

Political power grows from the muzzle of a gun.
-Mao Tse Tung
 

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... . Guns have devastated this city... . Something has to be done."
And here I thought it had something to do with the criminals carrying them.
 

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D.B.Cooper said:
I just saw a flurry of TV commercials brought to us by The Ad Council concerning "guncrimes."
The most memorable was this little white kid sitting next to a basketball court in the middle of the projects saying something like:
"When my brother commited a guncrime, he was sentenced to seven years. I didn't just lose my brother, I lost my best friend."

It looks like we're faced with an Admin that wont use the GOP dirtyword "guncontrol" so they are saying "guncrimes" instead.

Its like Ive always said:
Democrats want to outlaw firearms for the public's safety; Republicans want to outlaw firearms for the nation's security.


Hmm..Looks like I got myself a new sigline.

Bush Lawyers Target Gun Control's Legal Rationale
THE WALL STREET JOURNAL ^ | January 7, 2005 | JESS BRAVIN

Readying for a constitutional showdown over gun control, the Bush administration has issued a 109-page memorandum aiming to prove that the Second Amendment grants individuals nearly unrestricted access to firearms.

The memorandum, requested by Attorney General John Ashcroft, was completed in August but made public only last month, when the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel posted on its Web site several opinions1 setting forth positions on various legal issues. Reaching deep into English legal history and the practice of the British colonies prior to the American Revolution, the memorandum represents the administration's latest legal salvo to overturn judicial interpretations that have prevailed since the Supreme Court last spoke on the Second Amendment, in 1939. Although scholars long have noted the ambiguity of the 27-word amendment, courts generally have interpreted the right to "keep and bear arms" as applying not to individuals but rather to the "well-regulated militia" maintained by each state.

Reversing previous Justice Department policy, Mr. Ashcroft has declared that the Second Amendment confers a broad right of gun ownership, comparable with the First Amendment's grant of freedom of speech and religion. In November 2001, he sent federal prosecutors a memorandum endorsing a rare federal-court opinion, issued the previous month by the Fifth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New Orleans, that found an individual has the right to gun ownership. President Bush adopted that view as well, saying that "the Constitution gives people a personal right to bear arms," and doesn't merely protect "the rights of state militias," in an interview published days before last year's election in National Rifle Association magazines.

The new Justice Department memorandum acknowledges that "the question of who possess the right secured by the Second Amendment remains open and unsettled in the courts and among scholars," but goes on to declare that...


(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...
 

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I'm excited about that one Custer. I hope they can pull it off. All anyone has to do is pick up a dictionary and read that a militia is not an organized or professional military. It is made up of the ordinary Joe Blow citizens in an area to protect their community.
 

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Well, I don't agree with everything Bush does but as a gunowner this is the first national administration in my adult life that supports the 2nd amendment.

Not perfect, but we are better off than at any time since about 1968, certain states and cities excepted of course.
 
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