Nice work! I mean getting the 8 yr. old to be quite. I am always telling my kids "If you had to hunt for your dinner, you would starve!"....+1 VZ58, I took my 8 year old out sunday night bow hunting. He's not old enough to bow hunt himself yet, but he likes to go. Set up a treestand to the left of mine and just offset enough we didn't bump our elbows too much. About a half hour to sunset a little 8pt worked his way to about 10yds right in front of a mesmerized kid who was not fidgetting for the first time we climbed the tree.