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The election is not next week. It is going on NOW!

NC has early voting, as do many other States. The line was long, about a 40 minute wait. I filled out an absentee ballot, then was assigned a computer. An older spoke about why she left another voting place in a heavily minority area of town, Two vans of people from an "old folks home" were taken there, and she figured they would require much "assistance." I'm not sure the side of town was really important to them, though. Where I voted required a ride up steps, an escalator, or maybe an elevator. The library may have been more senior friendly.

I voted downtown, but there wasn't a heavy minority turnout.

One thing I recommend is to get information about so-called "nonpartisan races" in advance. In NC, we elect judges, and they are not allowed to run with a party label. However, your party will gladly tell you which candidates it is running. Just ask. There may be someone handing out that information at your precinct, but don't bank on it. The NRA does support some judicial candidates, but they only endorsed one judicial race in NC.

Please Vote! Your vote is needed. Thanks.
 

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I don't like the idea of early voting, it's available here in Florida, however, if fraud can be commited, it is easier to do when you have an idea which way the votes are being casted. My father-in-law is working one of those early voting places.
 

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aviator said:
I don't like the idea of early voting, it's available here in Florida, however, if fraud can be commited, it is easier to do when you have an idea which way the votes are being casted. My father-in-law is working one of those early voting places.
I am with you on early voting. Any deviation from the norm will open the system to abuse and fraud. Jack
 

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I wish we had more guarantees that our votes are counted, and that there aren't instances of vote fraud. I can't, and those things existed long before there was electronic touch-screen voting. Unless we have election reform with a Uniform Voting Act and a national Voter's ID card, one day a 9 year old computer hacker will elect our President.
 

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I don't have to go far to vote, as a matter of fact I have to unlock the building for the gals that run the voting. My voting place is our fire station, where I have been a volunteer firefighter for the last 15 Years.
 

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I think historic voting fraud was somewhat small scale and isolated to certain notorius areas run by ward bosses. 9Granted, many think Nixon lost due to the Daly machine in Chicago.)

Now I am afraid it is widespread, encouraged and sanctioned by the very top of the Dem machine.

I am more troubled by this than any policies I think the Dems would push if elected.
 

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I think historic voting fraud was somewhat small scale and isolated to certain notorius areas run by ward bosses. 9Granted, many think Nixon lost due to the Daly machine in Chicago.)

Now I am afraid it is widespread, encouraged and sanctioned by the very top of the Dem machine.

I am more troubled by this than any policies I think the Dems would push if elected.

Yeah, because for me it makes me wonder what else they are capable of!
 

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The hate Bush thing is so incredible that I think they are capable of anything and I did not previously believe that.
 

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JUst about anything, my friends, just about anything.

I've just received a phone call with a collage of bloopers from GW, I didn't bother listening to everything, but I tell you what, it was shorter than the list of flip-flops from Kerry.
 

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Hey, I think W is funny! So, what? His laugh cracks me up! I think it reminds me the man is human. How many of us haven't stumbled over words? Paid newscasters do it all the time, yet they still ridicule the President?

Kerry is a humorless twit. If he is elected, it will likely be by voter fraud.
 

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Who would you rather spend an afternoon with, Bush or Kerry?

I think the answer to that expresses a person's assessment of the candidates.
 

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At least I (all of us at home) find GW more credible and more human than the other option. Of course to err is human and everybody has stumbled finding the right words at some time, specially during public speaking, but this was more of a digitized collage about fatal mistakes regarding budget, medical care and so forth, very unethical in my opinion by putting the wrong words into the Presidents mouth. Have any of you heard it yet?

Unethical I said......Are politicians ethical anymore?, Have they ever been?
 

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Aviator, I think some are still ethical, maybe as many as in the past and maybe better than in some past eras.

A 24/7 media with time to fill coupled with a liberal agenda makes politicians every wary of saying anything. Those who stand up and say what they mean become the "nail that sticks up gets pounded down".

I also think while party differences always existed, most core American values were shared between the two parties and they were also both were believers in a strong national defense. This is no longer true IMHO.

There is a huge gap in core values and views of national defense.
 

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I have often been the "nail that sticks up," and getting pounded is no fun. I always felt if I stood up that others would follow. Unfortunately, they then became nails sticking up. I can't see how a politician can run a proper campaign today with a sensationalist media searching for inflammatory stories where none exist, and where debates allow a Presidential candidate has 90 seconds to discuss an issue such as Social Security reform, the Assault Weapons ban, or the Iraq War. I remember hearing Donna Brazille, a Democrat Campaign manager, refer to the election process as "the game." Her remark was flippant, but maybe it was true?
 

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I had an old boss who gave me this advice when a couple of the young turks like me asked him "how do you get ahead here at________".

He said: "Be controversial, but be right".
 
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