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Guys I got a piece in my amd-65 kit that I'm not sure what it is for. Out of 5 kits it only came in 2. Its the piece that is a oval with a hole in the center. My next question is how do you attach the swivel that comes with the kit that is in the picture. Out of 5 kits I got all but 2 had a broken of wing on them. My 63 has holes in the wings that you screw through.I was just going through all of them tonight to make sure everything was in the little bags. So, if you got one of the "surplus" kits, open it up and make sure you got everything and that your swivel isn't busted. I didn't get a chance to thoroughly check them out earlier this week, but was able to tonight. I found that one of them has a rusted barrel and gas tube. It looks like it will probably get sent back for a replacement. Thanks guys!
 

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The funky oval block goes inside the pistol grip. The pistol grip screws are short and this block acts as a clamp to spread the load across the top of the inside of the grip.

Remove the plug from the bottom of the forward grip and look up inside the pistol grip. You'll see the block and grip screw.

The sling mount on my kit had a broken wing as well. Folding the metal back and forth easily cracks it. If you want to attach the sling, you'll probably need to make a new mount for the ring. The way my ring is bent, it looks like they just pulled the sling mount out of the slot in the receiver. That would explain the marks and broken wing on my sling mount.

Are you going to build the 65 as original? A guy on Gunsnet posted a pic of a ventilated steel upper handguard. I edited the pic to show how it would look with the holes connected. I also edited a pic to show a 65 with the upper guard





You'd have to shorten the tube as others have done, but it wouldn't be too tough.
 

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Thanks for the input. Looks like I'll be needing a few more of these since they were missing. I think the upper HG's look pretty good. Maybe a few too many holes for me, though. It would be pretty cool to try it out though. How much are they selling the metal with holes for?
 

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love that ventilated handguard, but the damn things do get hot when you bump a few drums thru them. need a chicken mitt.
i just put a set of bishop wood from an nhm that i got from sniper69 (did you get the check i sent you friday?) and a handmade oak pistol grip on a 65 last night. the hardest part was adding the retainers. i made some cup shaped retainers out of 1/8" X 1" flat bar, and silver soldered them to the original gas tube, fitting htem to the upper handguard. the other options i know of are trying to find a hungarian comercial short gas system tube (hen's teeth) or cutting a standard tube just in front of the retainer, removing a section, and silv soldering it back together in a shorter form. which route did you go?

like the buttstock, too. next effort is making a wood wrap to bolt to the original sheet forearm ala galil, or a synthetic wrap. don't like the front pistol grip too much, and will keep both in place on the woody grade 1 63's i have, so that they are as original, but will be modding the 65's i do, going pistol with them in september, if all goes well. gotta buy some cheap grade 3's to do this with, rather than cut up the unissued guns.

ak pistols for 75$. oh, my god.
 

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justashooter, got the check you sent friday. Did you have a surplus of 3 cent stamps? LOL. My postman was chuckling about that too. I bet the post office had fun making sure that all them stamps got cancelled.

I think FAC sells the metal upper handguard with gas tube. I am trying to remember but weren't they around $20 or more.
 

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justashooter said:
...the other options i know of are trying to find a hungarian comercial short gas system tube (hen's teeth) or cutting a standard tube just in front of the retainer, removing a section, and silv soldering it back together in a shorter form. which route did you go?
There is another option. You can cut a standard gas tube down to the AMD-65 length. Then you hammer a 1/2" socket extension into the tube. The one you want to use has a tapered transition from the socket to the shaft. This will start to reshape the end. I think I would slide a piece of pipe over the end of the gas tube when doing this to help form the shape back to round. There was some talk on Gunsnet about doing it this way. The guy with the best technique slid a socket into the tube and then hammered the outside to clean it up a bit. The results didn't look bad at all. I think I'm going to go this route with one of my kits. I've got a set of Blonde Hungarian furniture to use.
 

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sniper69 said:
I think FAC sells the metal upper handguard with gas tube. I am trying to remember but weren't they around $20 or more.
They have them for $26.95.
 

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Here is a regular gas tube that was shortened for an AMD-65. I didn't do the work but rather a member at gunsnet did this one for me.




 

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looks nice... and the point of shortening the gas tube is so that you can add wood for grips rather than having it plain?

Justashooter, I noticed a while back you posted about making some pistols come September. And here you go again!! I would like to get the specifics on making a pistol in September. I have heard alot of people talk about it, but not many who are really sure of the legalities,etc. Would you consider writing up a bit of information on the basic legalities, how and what would need to be done to make it a pistol, etc. It would be a great tool for other who don't know what they're doing. Hey, maybe we could have a few people add to the information and we could make a tutorial or a sticky out of it. I know I would be game to help out, if there's anything I could do.
 
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