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[font=Palatino, Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][size=+2]Illegals estimated to number 18-20 million[/size][/font]
[font=Palatino, Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][size=+1]Underground economy costing IRS $311 billion in unpaid taxes annually[/size][/font]
[size=-1]Posted: January 3, 2005
5:00 p.m. Eastern[/size] [font=Palatino, Book Antiqua, Times New Roman, Georgia, Times][font=Palatino, Times New Roman, Georgia, Times, serif] [size=-1] ? 2005 WorldNetDaily.com [/size] [/font] [/font]

[font=Palatino, Book Antiqua, Times New Roman, Georgia, Times]Could there be 20 million illegal aliens in the U.S. today? That's the estimate of a business analyst who has studied the impact of the nation's underground economy. [/font]

[font=Palatino, Book Antiqua, Times New Roman, Georgia, Times]Robert Justich, a senior managing director at Bear Stearns Asset Management in New York is quoted in a Barron's report today, as highlighted by columnist Michelle Malkin. [/font]

[font=Palatino, Book Antiqua, Times New Roman, Georgia, Times][/font] [font=Palatino, Book Antiqua, Times New Roman, Georgia, Times]The report also points out the cost of the underground economy of illegal aliens working in the U.S. is costing the federal government hundred of billions of dollars in unpaid income taxes and could lead to an higher impact on taxpayers if President Bush's amnesty proposal is passed into law. [/font]

[font=Palatino, Book Antiqua, Times New Roman, Georgia, Times]Writes Jim McTauge in the Barron's piece: [/font]

[font=Palatino, Book Antiqua, Times New Roman, Georgia, Times][T]he underground economy is undermining the effectiveness of the Internal Revenue Service, which is highly dependent on employees' withholding taxes. If the IRS could collect all the taxes it says that it is owed from the underground economy in a given year, then the current budget deficit would disappear overnight. And if the IRS could collect these taxes every year, then the nation would have surpluses as far as the eye can see. [/font][font=Palatino, Book Antiqua, Times New Roman, Georgia, Times]The IRS has estimated that its tax gap ? the estimated amount of taxes owed minus the amount collected ? is around $311 billion in any given year. The agency will produce a new estimate in 2005, and it could be as high as $400 billion, says former IRS Commissioner Donald Alexander.[/font]

[font=Palatino, Book Antiqua, Times New Roman, Georgia, Times]Barron's notes the high rate of growth of the illegals' underground economy: [/font]

[font=Palatino, Book Antiqua, Times New Roman, Georgia, Times][T]he sheer growth of the underground economy in the U.S. is cause for concern. If Justich's estimate of illegal immigrant workers is correct, the underground economy may now be growing at a markedly faster rate than the legitimate economy. Justich, working with Bear Stearns colleague Betty Ng, an emerging-markets economist, says he's found evidence of a larger illegal immigrant population by analyzing data on construction and on remittances sent from the U.S. to Mexico and other countries. He also had conversations with over 100 immigrants from Mexico, Brazil, the Dominican Republic, Guinea, China and Tibet. And he interviewed local business owners, real-estate sales people and police. ...[/font]​
[font=Palatino, Book Antiqua, Times New Roman, Georgia, Times]McTague discusses the implication of Justich's 20-million figure on the president's proposed amnesty program. [/font]

[font=Palatino, Book Antiqua, Times New Roman, Georgia, Times]"President Bush proposes temporary amnesty for illegal aliens already in the country, allowing them to obtain permits to work legally for three years and stay longer if their jobs otherwise can't be filled by native-born workers," writes McTauge. "But if there are, in fact, 20 million illegal aliens, the Bush proposal could engender a situation not unlike the German unification of the 1990s, which triggered huge demand for social services in East Germany. Unanticipated costs here could be enormous." [/font]

[font=Palatino, Book Antiqua, Times New Roman, Georgia, Times]Adds Malkin: "The article should be must-reading for every member of Congress as President Bush prepares to foist his amnesty plan on America." [/font]
 

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"[T]he underground economy is undermining the effectiveness of the Internal Revenue Service, which is highly dependent on employees' withholding taxes. If the IRS could collect all the taxes it says that it is owed from the underground economy in a given year, then the current budget deficit would disappear overnight. And if the IRS could collect these taxes every year, then the nation would have surpluses as far as the eye can see. The IRS has estimated that its tax gap ? the estimated amount of taxes owed minus the amount collected ? is around $311 billion in any given year. The agency will produce a new estimate in 2005, and it could be as high as $400 billion, says former IRS Commissioner Donald Alexander."

Better take this up with Custer. He seems to think it's OK to let the law that prohibits the hiring of illegal aliens to go unenforced.
 

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Thats a hell of a lot of people we are paying taxes for. Maybe I should move out of country and work under the table for a living. Nah...I like what I do and where I live. And very proud of the USA.
 

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Dzerzhinsky said:
"Better take this up with Custer. He seems to think it's OK to let the law that prohibits the hiring of illegal aliens to go unenforced.

You have a bad memory, Dizzy.
 

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I guess I do have a bad memory, Custer. If I'm putting words in your mouth or setting you up as a straw man, I do apologize: That's really annoying when folks do that, and I don't want to do it to you. But I do remain under the impression that you think it's OK to leave that law unenforced. Can you clarify?
 

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I have said many times that go ahead and enforce it. Won't solve the problem though and will ensnare people that no politician wants to ensnare. But that's ok with me. I get tired of the moms and pops stealing my business because they don't have the cost of regulatory compliance.

Now, if we are going to do that, lets also deal with the other enticements for illegals.

Lets get the governement agency employees who give various benefits to illegals without doing due diligence. Lets nail the school teachers and administrators who find it in their interest to spend my tax money boosting enrollment via illegals without doing their due diligence.

When we do that, we will not have an equal protection problem.
 

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Damn, Custer, we're getting pretty close to being in agreement here. Although the support you state above for enforcing the law prohibiting hiring of illegals is so lukewarm it's no wonder I'd thought you were OK with leaving it unenforced.

Memory deficits seem to be rampant around here: I agree with you about the other enticements, but eliminating them is going to be contingent upon consistent enforcement of Federal immigration laws (which you and I apparently both support), and upon school boards and state legislatures repealing policies and statutes calling for admission of illegal immigrants to schools. It's not fair to hang the educators and administrators out to dry for compliance with the dicatates of their bosses.

Same deal with non-emergency medical treatment: The Feds actually toss money at general hospitals to help offset part of the costs they incur by providing non-emergency medical treatment to illegals. That needs to stop. Instead, emergency treatment should be made available - so they can be safely deported.

The whole thing is so weird. If I were to enter a country illegally, I would expect to get in a bunch of trouble if I got caught, and certainly wouldn't have the nerve to seek out education, health care, welfare, etc., from the government of that other country. Yeah, think I'll sneak into Cuba and take advantage of the education and healthcare provided to Cubans (true stuff, Cuban education and healthcare is pretty good; food and liberty is a bit difficult to come by for Cubans, though).
 
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