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Is it Kosher to ship an AK kit to:....

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Puerto Rico?
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My gut says no... but it doesn't look good below.

458k. Notice by carrier, warehouseman, or depository for the receipt of weapons; penalties

Any sea, air or land carrier, and every warehouseman or depository who knowingly receives firearms, accessories or parts thereof, or ammunition, for delivery in Puerto Rico, shall not deliver said merchandise to the consignee until he shows his weapons or dealer license. Within five (5) working days of the delivery, the carrier, warehouseman, or depository shall notify the Superintendent of the name, address and license number of the consignee, and the number of firearms or ammunition including the caliber, that are delivered, personally or by certified mail with receipt requested, as well as any other information required by the Superintendent, by regulations

When the consignee does not have a weapons or dealer license, the carrier, warehouseman, or depository shall immediately notify the Superintendent of said fact, with the name and address of the consignee and the number of firearms or ammunition for delivery. Neither shall he deliver said merchandise to the consignee until he holds an authorization issued by the Superintendent to such effects

The violation of any obligation established herein shall constitute a felony which shall be punished with imprisonment for a fixed term of twelve (12) years, and a fine of not less than two thousand ($2,000) dollars nor more than ten thousand ($10,000) dollars. If there were aggravating circumstances, the fixed penalty thus established can be raised to a maximum of twentyfour (24) years, if there were mitigating circumstances, it can be reduced to a minimum of six (6) years

Not only that, but any part with a serial number IS considered a firearm below. Like the Trunnion.


Subchapter V. Weapons

458. Manufacture, importation, sale and distribution of weapons

It shall be necessary to hold a license issued pursuant to the requirements set forth in this chapter to manufacture, import, offer, sell or have available for sale, rent, or transfer any firearms or ammunition or that portion or part of a firearm on which the manufacturer of the same places the serial number of the firearm. Any infraction of this section shall constitute a felony and be punished with imprisonment for a fixed term of fifteen (15) years, without the right to suspended sentence, to parole, or to enjoy the benefits of a diversion program or to benefits or alternatives to imprisonment acknowledged in this jurisdiction, having to serve in calendar years the total amount of the penalty imposed. Should there be aggravating circumstances, the fixed penalty established may be increased up to a maximum of twenty-five (25) years; should there be extenuating circumstances, it may be reduced to a minimum of ten (10) years

458a. Prohibition of the sale to unlicensed persons.

No dealer shall deliver a weapon to a buyer unless he/she can show a weapons license in effect. When the buyer of the weapon is a hunter or shooter authorized to own firearms, the sale and delivery thereof shall be made in the same manner that is indicated in this chapter

A dealer who knowingly sells firearms to a person without a license, shall be guilty of a felony, and upon conviction, shall be sanctioned with a penalty of imprisonment for a fixed term of fifteen (15) years. If there were aggravating circumstances, the penalty established may be increased to a maximum of twenty-five (25) years; if there were mitigating circumstances, it could be reduced to a minimum of ten (10) years

A conviction under this section shall entail the automatic cancellation of the dealer license
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You can do whatever you want. Its the guy in Puerto Rico who has to deal with the fallout.
Yeah I don't think I want to get near that mess.....it's only an AMD65 kit
Take the tinfoil hat off.

A parts kit is legally "junk". In the USA, the receiver is legally the firearm, and it doesn't make a sh** where else the serial numbers are.

Sheesh, dude.
Puerto Rico is not "in" the USA. Yes, its a territory but they have their own gun laws that would make the rest of us rise up and revolt. Very similar to European gun laws. 2 guns max, very restrictive ammo laws, gun licenses etc.

NRA-ILA ::

456m. Semi-automatic assault weapons; manufacture, importing, distribution, possession and transfer

(a) No semiautomatic assault weapon shall be manufactured, or caused to be manufactured, offered, sold, rented, loaned, owned, used, transferred or imported. However, this prohibition shall not be applicable to:

(1) The possession, use, transfer in Puerto Rico or the importing from the United States territory by persons whose license contains the category of target shooting, hunting or who hold a dealer license, of those assault weapons that exist legally within the nation of the United States of America, on the date this act becomes effective

(2) The manufacture, importing, sale or delivery by licensed dealers, to be used by the police officers of the government of Puerto Rico or the United States, or for the use of the armed forces of the United Sates government or of Puerto Rico

(b) The semiautomatic assault weapons referred to in this section are the following:

(1) Nariño, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat Kalashnikovs (all AK models)

(2) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil

(3) Beretta Ar70 (SC-70)

(4) Colt AR-15

(5) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC

(6) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12

(7) Steyr AUG

(8) INTRATEC tec-9, tec-dc9 AND tec-22

(9) Revolving cylinder shotguns such as (or similar to) the Street Sweeper and Striker 12

(c) Also considered as a semiautomatic assault weapon, is:

(1) A semiautomatic rifle that is retrofed by a magazine or removable receptacle which contains two (2) or more of the following characteristics:

(A) Folding or telescopic butt

(B) Pistol grip that clearly overlaps the trigger action

(C) Bayonet mount

(D) Flash suppressor

(E) Grenade launcher, excluding flare launchers

(2) A semiautomatic pistol that can be backloaded by a magazine or removable receptacle which has more than two (2) of the following characteristics: (A) A magazine or clip that is fixed on the pistol outside of the pistol grip

(B) A barrel with spiral grooves on the front which is capable of accepting an extension to the barrel, a flash suppressor, a hand grip in front of the weapon or a silencer

(C) A cover that can be fixed covering all or part of the barrel, allowing whoever fires the weapon to hold it with the hand that is not pulling the trigger, without getting burned

(D) An unloaded manufacturing weight in excess of fifty (50) ounces

(E) A semiautomatic version of an automatic weapon

(3) A semiautomatic shotgun that has two (2) or more of the following characteristics: (A) A collapsible or telescopic breech

(B) A pistol grip that clearly overlaps the trigger action

(C) A fixed ammunition magazine or clip that holds more than five (5) cartridges

(D) Is capable of receiving a removable magazine or clip

(d) Any person who violates the provisions of this Section shall be guilty of a felony, and upon conviction, shall be punished by imprisonment for a fixed term of twenty-four (24) years, without the right to suspended sentence, to parole, or to enjoy the benefit of a diversion program or to benefits or alternatives to imprisonment acknowledged in this jurisdiction, having to serve in calendar years the total amount of the penalty imposed. Should there be aggravating circumstances, the fixed penalty established may be increased up to a maximum of thirty-six (36) years; should there be extenuating circumstances, it may be reduced to a minimum of eighteen (18) years

The possession or use of these weapons by members of the police and those other officers of the law that are duly authorized to bear arms in compliance of their duties, as established in this chapter, shall not constitute a crime

The application of the provisions of this section shall be prospective as of the approval of this act
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Take the tinfoil hat off.

A parts kit is legally "junk". In the USA, the receiver is legally the firearm, and it doesn't make a sh** where else the serial numbers are.

Sheesh, dude.
All I did was quote the law as posted on the NRA website and said that my gut said no... No tin foil hat needed. You can do what you want, personally, I wouldn't risk it to sell a $200 AK kit. What's the cost of defending yourself? It's a simple cost benefit analysis.

In general (according to the fedex website) Firearms, weaponry, and their parts are acceptable between the U.S. and Puerto Rico. The problem comes from the wording of their assault weapons ban and this "It shall be necessary to hold a license issued pursuant to the requirements set forth in this chapter to manufacture, import, offer, sell or have available for sale, rent, or transfer any firearms or ammunition or that portion or part of a firearm on which the manufacturer of the same places the serial number of the firearm."

Mark
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Okay, aficionados of the Reynolds Stetson, I still don't see where parts are listed.

Magazines are unable to be shipped to some states, sure, but the rest is legally "junk" or "scrap metal".




The OP asked if it was "kosher", not if you'd do it or not.

According to all this copy/pasted stuff, it's fine, so long as the magazine isn't shipped.
Its still like sending parts kits and magazines to California. Illegal for the recipient. Not the sender.
Okay, aficionados of the Reynolds Stetson, I still don't see where parts are listed.

Magazines are unable to be shipped to some states, sure, but the rest is legally "junk" or "scrap metal".

The OP asked if it was "kosher", not if you'd do it or not.

According to all this copy/pasted stuff, it's fine, so long as the magazine isn't shipped.
Hey, I'll defer to you. If you say it's legal, that's good enough for me. I'm not a lawyer. I just found what I could to try to help the OP out.

Mark
Its still like sending parts kits and magazines to California. Illegal for the recipient. Not the sender.
parts kits of all sorts are legal in CA. any mags may be sent here (CA)disassembled, as repair kits.

just so ya know :)
I stopped in a gun store in Puerto Rico once, it was mostly empty except for a couple of holserts and other security guard stuff. I had to be buzzed in through a heavy security door. they asked what I was looking for, I told them I was just gawking. I asked if they had any guns and they said 'it wasn't like in the USA where you could just get anything you want; here you need permits' and they laughed a little. that was more than 10 years ago, it has to be worse now.

they are not part of the US like a state is; they are a "free associated state" and share a unique legal relationship. ask a puerto rican resident about a puerto rican passport, it can be an interesting topic. I can easily see where their gun laws could be much different than what we are used to here.
Its still like sending parts kits and magazines to California. Illegal for the recipient. Not the sender.

There are many firms and individuals ( I believe copes dist. is one of them) who sell "REPLACEMENT PART KITS" ( disassembled mags etc.) for legally grandfathered registered mags and guns.

see cal guns dot net:
Rebuild Kits: PMAG:$15, also AK, Glock, CZ75/SP01, LR-308, Magpul MOE, MBUS - Calguns.net

"Legal Disclaimer (Borrowed from another post):
These rebuild kits are not to be used to assemble a new high capacity magazine which would be in violation of California Law. These rebuild kits are intended to rebuild a legally owned pre-ban magazine or for assembling a 10 round magazine pursuant to California Law."



OTH it IS illegal to ship via common carrier anything illegal in another jurisdiction, you become subject to the laws of the state where it is illegal.
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OTH it IS illegal to ship via common carrier anything illegal in another jurisdiction, you become subject to the laws of the state where it is illegal.


Let them extradite !!! Piss off California and especially Puerto Rico !!!
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