[ZOID ZODIAN]

Several weeks ago I basically "retired" the Zoid Zodian character because I don't surf these forums much anymore, but I thought that in honor of the AWB expiring I'd make one final post.

I know this should probably go in the legal areas forum, but since expiration of the AWB is a current event, I'm posting it here.

From the time that Bill Clinton got elected in 1992 and the Assault Weapons Ban went into effect in September of 1994, every gun owner I knew at the time was literally scrambling to acquire all the guns, ammo, and hi-cap mags that he could under the belief that they might be made illegal to buy after the ban. The proposed law kept changing from month to month, with new amendments to require registration, etc., constantly bobbing up and down in the talks over the ban.

And I don't care what ANYONE has good to say about the NRA: I was a full-blown, card-carryin' check writin' phone callin' letter writin' NRA member in those days, and I STILL say they caved in too quickly on the AWB and the Brady Bill.

It's kind of scary to think about now, but several people I knew, ranging from gun dealers (now mostly out of business) to old-timers you'da never thunk woulda had a discouragin' word to say were openly talking Revolution. Just talk? Probably. But even national economist and sometimes guest host for Rush Limbaugh Walter Williams said that the 1994 election had been, "The last chance to avoid chaos." With the 1994 election, the Republicans took the Congress away from the gun-grabbing Democrats after 40 years of the Dems being in control. The election surprised even the most optimistic pundits.

The "chaos" that Walter Williams referred to was how the fear that the government was over-reaching its boundaries in the gun control debate was leading some people to believe we should just dump some tea into the harbor and start the whole thing over again. Indeed, a national gun magazine (that no longer exists) called MODERN GUN published an editorial basically warning congressmen, in so many words, that if they suddenly make a huge number of gun owners criminals just by legislative fiat, that some of those gun owners may decide that they have nothing to lose by fighting back with violence.

No one wants to admit to it now, but at the time it was well known that Tim McVeigh was partly motivated by what he, rightly or wrongly, perceived to be the government's persecution of gun owners at Waco. What he did was totally wrong and barbaric--but it is an extreme example of what the spirit of the times produced.

LET'S NOT EVER GO THERE AGAIN.

Let's work diligently to elect only pro-gun people in November. Let's not ever go back to sleep and let the gun-grabbers get new restrictions on our Second Amendment rights. I'll repeat that word. I said, "rights," not "privileges." Too many gun owners I think are warming to the idea that some restrictions are appropriate. The problem is, the gun-grabbers are never satisfied. Their ultimate goal is disarmament. Appeasement works no better with them than with tyrants like Hitler or Saddam Hussein. The thing to do is to defeat them with our votes, our contributions, our letters, our e-mails, but NEVER with violence.

If we defeat them the right way, we can someday look back and laugh at how people actually used to think that gun control was a good thing. Until then, vigilance is the price of freedom, Brothers.

'Nuff Said.

Have fun everybody.

 

[Sangrun Hunter]

I'll have to say those were dark days and I'm glad to see that over. We still need to be vigilant about who and what is motivating these libs.

I remember going to gun shows back in 93-94 and being asked by shady characters if I wished to join a militia. I was handed documents and heard things like prepare for revolution. Who knows if these were government plants or true patriots that had gone a little too far.

It was a scary time and it still could be if the wrong type gets in the White house again like Kerry.

 

[Oldgunner]

Hay Zoid, Come back now and then to let us know how you?re doing and put your two cents in. As far as voting is concerned you?re right, I just hope that Bush junior won?t do what Daddy did. If you remember Bush senior wanted our votes so he joined the NRA and paid for a lifetime membership, and it worked! He got the votes he needed and then turned around and signed every anti-gun bill that was put in front of him. Next time a lot of the gun owners remembered and dumped his ass, in fact so many NRA members remembered and started to drop out of the NRA in protest that the NRA I hear asked him to get out or be kicked out. I?m afraid that junior is doing much the same thing by not asking Congress for a renewal of the AWB, he hopes to gain our votes. I don?t trust any politician when it comes to our rights and will only vote for Bush as the lesser of two evils and will hope for a better choice to come along in four years. And if we?re lucky an airplane with the Hillary Clinton on it will fall out of the sky and land on top of John Kerry and thus put an end to two of the biggest threats to our country. The way things are going the Democrats will put a child molester or a homosexual up for President next time. I?m almost 53 and can?t remember a bigger slime-ball than Kerry ever running for the presidential office.

 

[sks_hunter]

I remember one who served two terms before GWB
Good going, NAFTA Bill. Let's send some more jobs to mexico.

 

[ak'sr4me]

I remember one who served two terms before GWB
Good going, NAFTA Bill. Let's send some more jobs to mexico.

As far as I know, the borders are still wide open. Like father, like son. Don't get me wrong, GWB is the better choice of the two, Kerry should be hung right next to Clinton, but the concept of America, a rebublic, a government of the people, for the people, by the people is in serious trouble, and if the american people don't get there heads out of the sand and realize how they are trying to eliminate our constituional rights, one by one, we are going to wind up being enslaved by our own government. That is not what what our founding fathers had in mind when they wrote the constitution. ak'sr4me " To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them"

 

[Grendeljaeger]

Good to hear from ya Zoid!! I agree those were scary times and many folks were frustrated. I can only pray that we have learned from all this. And I haven't missed an election since 1980.

 

[MAJOR PITA]

I've been working on a theory that these huge gun control pushes, starting with the National Firearms act of 1934, generally come in about 30-year intervals. It was a little over 30 years from the NFA to the Gun Control Act of 1968, and then it was around another thirty years to the AWB and the Brady Act in 1993-1994. I figure that in about 25-30 years the Libs will make another push at a bunch of gun control laws. People will have died off or forgotten about the previous threats to their freedoms, and they'll probably succeed. That is, unless we keep working even while we have administrations that are relatively more friendly to gun owners. I admit, I celebrated when the Republicans took Congress away from the Libs in 1994, but it's time to stop celebrating and start pushing a pro-gun stance.

If Bush wins re-election and the Republicans keep control of Congress, we ought to push for the repeal of previously passed laws. More and more states are passing concealed carry laws, and there seems to be a trend toward more gun-friendly legislation. We need to strike while the iron is hot and turn back the clock on a lot of the previous anti-gun laws that have been passed.

 

[Oldgunner]

Yah it looks like every 4 to 6 presidential elections brings about a major gun control plot against us. But this time it looks like whoever wins will screw us. I hate to say it but our greatest hope to keep the right to own guns is having more terror attacks on US soil, and then have the people wakeup and realize that the government can?t protect everyone everywhere. Maybe we can luck out and have some good gun-toting citizen stop a terrorist attack and with even greater luck a non-leftist reporter will report it for all to see. Probably not, the news media can?t get their minds around the fact that guns are used for good most times and not just in murders, so even if it happens we?ll never see or hear about the gun being used at all.

As far as concealed carry laws go we need to get back to the fact that there shouldn?t be CC-Laws. We as citizens of the United States of America should all be allowed to carry a gun without the government telling us that we need to pay them for the ?Right? to defend ourselves in our own homes or on our streets. Self-defense should not be regulated or allowed only for the rich, even a dog has the right to bite you if your harming it, so why do we allow government types to tell us we can?t do the same as a dog? CC-Laws are just another way of getting more control over our rights, they give the impression of freedom but are actually controls on rights that they should have no say in. Believe in the 2nd Amendment as it was written and not as the government wants it to be. Read what the men who wrote those words thought about our Right to Keep and Bare Arms and how important it was to the formation of this country and too the safety and protection of its people.
Sorry I?m running on here, but that last part was for the new guys here.