M1A rifles
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To be honest, if I weren't such an AK-holic, the M1A would be by first choice. I love the perfect peep sight, the powerful cartridge, the two-stage trigger (SHUT UP yer makin' me want one!), the ability to mount a scope, the fact that a flash hider is still legal on them.
The only thing I don't like is the PRICE. :bawling:
The only thing I don't like is the PRICE. :bawling:
With two safes full of rifles and stuff stacked behind doors I have only one unfired rifle and it is the M1A that I bought years and years ago. I always wanted one and I bought one out of my income tax return one year thinking it was going to be the end all in .308 battle rifles. Well I have a multitude of different FALs and the M1A just seemed to pail in comparison to them. It unfortunately does absolutely nothing for me. Now my M1 Garand, that is an entirely different story. Got it from the DCM way back in the day and I love that rifle. So the M1A sits in the safe in absolutely unfired condition, kind of a said story but that is the way it is.
I have the loaded package with the carbon barrel with a very nice walnut stock. I picked this because it looks like a USGI gun and has all the upgrades on it from the factory. The trigger is sweet and the sights are the best hands down.
I paid a arm and leg for the M1A. I had a 70 corvette with a 350 with 350 horse power and a 4 speed stick. I made a deal with the wife if I sold it. I was aloud to buy my dream gun and she got central air for the house. :bawling:
I miss that car. It was fast and fun. I really love the rifle. I also sold it because we just had are first child. Now she is 3 and she is going to have a sister in late June. :thumbup1:
I paid a arm and leg for the M1A. I had a 70 corvette with a 350 with 350 horse power and a 4 speed stick. I made a deal with the wife if I sold it. I was aloud to buy my dream gun and she got central air for the house. :bawling:
I miss that car. It was fast and fun. I really love the rifle. I also sold it because we just had are first child. Now she is 3 and she is going to have a sister in late June. :thumbup1:
Read the M16A1 Thread, that'll tell you what I think. You can keep your lead hoses, I'll take accuracy any day.
http://www.gunco.net/forums/showthread.php?t=422
http://www.gunco.net/forums/showthread.php?t=422
My friend just emailed me the other day. A guy he works with wants to sell his Inland M1 Carbine. He says it has a "perfect" stock. What do you guys think it is worth. I told him to go to Gun Broker and look around. There was one there with a starting bid of $1200.00, but it did not sell. Jack
GunBroker is notorious for high prices. A lot of prices are higher than what I see in other shops and Gun Shows.scubadvr said:
Tell your friend that if it was me, I'd ASK $750, and take $600-650 if it was counter offered. $750 is too much, but it sure makes somebody offer the RIGHT price quicker. Besides, somebody just might pay the $750.
It's kinda like the so-so condition Garands that dealers are asking about $1000 for, when you can buy one in about the same condition from CMP for $400-500.
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I'm kinda with you, Rule. I have a preban M1A and I like it and have fired it. BUT, the FALs are easier to maintain, easier to clean, more ergonomic, and I have two that are as accurate. So the M1A remains a novelty.Rule .308 said:
There is a reason why the rest of the free world went with the FAL rather than the M14.
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This youngster needs clarification
Is the M1 the rifle called "the greatest fighting impliment ever devised" by General Patton? I've also heard of 1000yd competitions w/ M1s using iron sights.
Have I been misinformed, or is this the same rifle?
The only FAL I've fired (using cheap 8 cents/round Russian ammo) is great. It hits a 600yd target pretty consistently (I'm not the greatest shot in the world).
Having never fired an M1 I couldn't say one way or the other, but I love the feel of the FAL. It's so loud you feel it when someone near you shoots it. :w00t1:
Is the M1 the rifle called "the greatest fighting impliment ever devised" by General Patton? I've also heard of 1000yd competitions w/ M1s using iron sights.
Have I been misinformed, or is this the same rifle?
The only FAL I've fired (using cheap 8 cents/round Russian ammo) is great. It hits a 600yd target pretty consistently (I'm not the greatest shot in the world).
Having never fired an M1 I couldn't say one way or the other, but I love the feel of the FAL. It's so loud you feel it when someone near you shoots it. :w00t1:
Remember there is a difference between the two rifles. The M1 is a WWII rifle and often justly I might add coined by Patton as the greatest... That being said, there is an M1A1 rifle. The M1A1 is a M14 rifle. Similar to the M1 and its successer but not the same.
Springfield Armory M1A1
M1 or M1 Grand
Jack
Springfield Armory M1A1
M1 or M1 Grand
Jack
What can be said. The M14/M1A is a great rifle.The USA chose the M14 because it was equal to the FAL and since it was an American design, chose it.If the FAL would have been a USA design it would have been choosen. I have 3ea and 4 more complete parts kits(USGI) stashed. I also have a SGT 58 FAL and building an Imbel kit , on a Imbel reciever as we speak. I love both designs,. M14 & FAL's. If your good with one your good with the other.My father inlaw carried the M14 (winchester) while visiting a hot spot called Vietnam.He had no problems with it or it droping Charlie. His favorite two weapons, M14 and M79 . WarDawg
The Competitions are called "National Matches" both M1's and "M1A's" are used along with other firearms.Revolver_Ocelot said:
As for me, the Springfield Armory gun is nice, but I'll still keep my pre-ban Fed Ord M14 (It's an early one, all GI Parts, except the receiver SN 4XXX). I've got an L1A1 (British FAL), but don't like it compared to the M14. As earler stated, I DON'T like M16's/AR-15, though I've got one of those too.
I'm just waiting to wring out the RomAK 3 and see how it stacks up.
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I have two NM M1As that I have had since Springfield started (Around 1970 or so) Both are under SN5XXX and both have first class government parts because I had them built by a USMC armorer. I bought the receivers and you bought the rest :scared: I am getting older (than hell) so I don't shoot them as much. I am planning to sell one of them in the next few months because they just sit and they deserve better. The one that I am going to sell has had less than 200 rounds through it. That one has a walnut stock. The one that I shoot has a fiberglass stock and I always liked the fiberglass stock better. I have a new fiberglass stock for the one that I am selling but I never got around to glass bedding it so I never put it on the rifle. When I sell the gun I will include it if the buyer want it. I truely loved the M14 and I was as mad as hell when they took them away and gave us a 22. You are supposed to quit shooting 22s after you reach puberty.
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scubadvr said:
Jack,
Thanks for the explanation. I also find myself often confusing the two names. So could you or one of the other guys give me a comparison of when both of these rifles were used in action and any overlap aswell. Would also love to hear when the M-16 dropped in. Not coming from much of a military background other than the fact that both of my grandfathers were in WWII, and not doing a whole lot of reading, I am still pretty uneducated when it comes to gun history.
The M1 Garand was used by U.S. forces up through the Korean conflict. Between the Korean conflict and Viet Nam they phased in the M-14 and then they phased in the m-16. In the early years of the Viet Nam war we fielded both the M14s and the M16's. Eventually as the M16 was refined/improved upon and as ammo and cleaning issues were adressed it became the standard issue rifle and the M14 was relegated to a more specific role like a designated marksmans rifle or what you would see the spotter in a two man sniper team carry.yosuthnmasa said:
The M1 Garand is the predecessor to the M14 and some of the main differences would be that the M14 has a detachable box magazine, the gas system is reworked so it has a piston that throws back a rod instead of one long op rod like the M1 Garand, it can be readily equiped with a telescopic sight, the iron sights are pretty much the same stuff from one to the other, and the M14 uses a slightly shorter round, .308 instead of 30-06.
I am sure there probably was some overlap in the services between the M1 and the M14 but seeing as it was probably in the late 50's to early 60's and we were more involved in the Cold War than anything else you really don't see a great deal of footage one it. Unlike the early days of 'Nam when you see both of them being fielded. To this day though the M14 is still in inventory and still in use by Special Forces and other outfits that need to reach out and touch somebody.
While I do like and admire the M14 (M1A) I do not shoot at distances that are long enough to really appreciate the difference between it and the FAL. I really like the way the FAL shoulders and handles so I just stick to it and leave my M1A unfired in the safe. If I want that kind of gun I just shoot my old WWII issued M1 Garand and it never fails to put a smile on my face and on the target too if I do my job.
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