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DADDY WARBUCKS
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LAW OF THE LAND
View homosexual film,
or school faces lawsuit
ACLU tells district: Force students
to watch 'tolerance training' video

If administrators of Kentucky's Boyd County school district can't find a way to force all students to attend sexual orientation and gender identity "tolerance training," the American Civil Liberties Union is threatening to take them to court ? again.

Ten months ago, the district settled a lawsuit with the ACLU over the right of a student group, the Gay-Straight Alliance, to meet on campus. The year-long litigation strained relations in the conservative northeast portion of the state. In addition to allowing the group to meet on campus after school, district officials agreed that all students, staff and teachers would be required to receive "tolerance training."

The agreement stipulated all would attend "mandatory anti-harassment workshops," including the viewing of an hour-long "training" video covering sexual orientation and gender identity issues for middle and high school students.

But ten months on, one-third of Boyd County students have failed to see the video, and that has the ACLU threatening court action.

"It sounds like the training can't possibly be done," James Esseks, litigation director for the ACLU's Lesbian and Gay Rights Project, tells the Louisville Courier-Journal.

District figures show 105 of 730 middle school students opted out of the training video and 145 of 971 high school students did likewise. On the day scheduled for training, 324 students didn't show up for school.

The current legal snag arises from the fact the original consent decree had no provision for parents exempting their children.

"The schools have great latitude in what they want to teach, including what's in training programs, and the training is now part of the school curriculum," Esseks says. "Parents don't get to say I don't want you to teach evolution or this, that or whatever else. If parents don't like it they can homeschool, they can go to a private school, they can go to a religious school."

"Where are the parental rights in this whole thing?" asks Rev. Tim York, president of the Boyd County Ministerial Alliance and head of Defenders Voice, a community group formed to contest the decree.

According to the group's website, Defenders Voice "incorporated due to the need for protection of both the physical and mental health of our students and citizens." Its members place blame for their current distress squarely on the ACLU:

"We have seen an onslaught of aggressive homosexual activism sweep across our country. In many cases, these activists are supported by the ACLU in their attempts. ... Defenders Voice believes that an organization like the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) should not be allowed to tell parents what their children must learn."
The Alliance Defense Fund, a religious-liberties public-interest legal group, has signed on to help Defenders Voice, pledging to sue the school district unless it adopts an opt-out policy for parents this week. Alliance was formed in 1993 with the guidance of several well-known Christian conservatives, including the late Dr. Bill Bright, the late Larry Burkett, Dr. James Dobson, Dr. D. James Kennedy, and the late Marlin Maddoux.

Joe Platt, a Cincinnati attorney representing Alliance, says mandatory training on tolerance for homosexuals violates the right of conscience of parents and students who believe such behavior immoral.

But school district attorney, Winter Huff, insists to the Courier-Journal the decree does not violate parental rights: "Students certainly have the right to believe in what they want to believe, but they don't have the right to act out in inappropriate ways. The point is you don't treat people disrespectfully, you don't pick on people, you don't bully them, you don't make them afraid to come to school."

Meanwhile, only one of the seven plaintiffs in the 2003 lawsuit still remain in school. Six have graduated, and the teacher-adviser for the Gay-Straight Alliance club asked to transfer to another campus.

The ACLU's Esseks is now questioning whether the mandatory video meets the decree's required hour of anti-harassment training. Like one-third of the students in Boyd County schools, he has yet to view it.
 

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Sometimes the best way is to fight fire with wire. Possibly a conservative minded organization could be created and financed by donations to file thousands of petty lawsuits against the ACLU. Bankrupt them by using the same methods they have used to push their agenda.
 

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Tough to do. They are really well heeled. A lot of their guys who handle cases do it for free because they are "believers" and it also generates clients for their private practice due to the publcity.
 

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All I can say is that we are getting closer and closer to Communism all the time and Custer's story proves it.

I wonder what the ACLU would have to say about a mandatory viewing of "The Passion of Christ" sponsored by the Christian/Non-Believer Alliance as a way to bring Christians and non-believers together to work out their differences? Maybe you Kentucky folks should give it a try.

PS I don't know if there is or isn't a group by the name of Christian/Non-Believer Alliance. I was just using that for an example. But if anybody wants to start one, have at it.
 

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This sort of indoctrination has been very common at the college level for a number of years. I first came across it when my daughter went through freshman orientation and part of the agenda was a campus gay group acting out some gay pride skits. This was in 1993.

It is now trickling down to the high school level.
 

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It?s said that gays represent approximately 10% of the population. I have to ask why do the 90% let the 10% push them around? Gays already have laws to protect them and they do have rights like the rest of us, the object here is to push their way of life on us and somehow make it respectable and correct. Sorry but for most it can?t be respectable or correct, it can be acceptable! We can accept that 10% of us are gay, but how can they think it?s right to force us to think it?s respectable and proper? It?s fine to create understanding about homosexuality, but not to push it as being an admirably correct way of life. If we all became gay how would mankind continue to grow and reproduce? We now live in a world where we save the defective among us, children born with defects hundreds of years ago died, but now days they become multimillion-dollar babies cost wise, and homosexuals are acceptable publicly. Basically if you couldn?t keep up with the group or reproduce in the past, you died. Humans grew bigger, formed communities then advanced intellectually and scientifically. Look at the world, some societies have advanced to the point that they are experimenting with space travel and others are still living in mud huts. Others advanced to lead the world in science and written laws but today are stagnant and have been left living five hundred years in the past. I fear that we are about to reach a point that is our highest point of advancement and that we will stagnate and start to decline. Another group will takeover and become the top of the pile and we will become a third world society. I question if the next great society will accept gays and their defectives as being of equal importance as we do in our society. Won?t they weed them out as being too weak to survive? I?m not saying that we need to weed out our defectives or that children should be allowed to die at birth if they?re not perfect. It?s just that we must for our society to survive, keep those that are the 90% of the population in charge and not back down. Those 10% can?t have sway over the greater number without our society being degraded to fit their way of life and that would be the beginning of our end.
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Unreal! I'm so not looking forward to my children going to school. I'm 35 now and just getting started on the family. By the time my kids get to middle school and high school I'm going to be a very cranky nearly old man.

There could be some school administrators that will hate it when they see me coming.
 

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God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can change, and the weaponry to make the difference.
 
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