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Senator says US may need compulsory service to boost Iraq force

Tue Apr 20,12:34 PM ET Add Politics - AFP to My Yahoo!

WASHINGTON (AFP) - A senior Republican lawmaker said that deteriorating security in Iraq (news - web sites) may force the United States to reintroduce the military draft.


"There's not an American ... that doesn't understand what we are engaged in today and what the prospects are for the future," Senator Chuck Hagel told a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing on post-occupation Iraq.


"Why shouldn't we ask all of our citizens to bear some responsibility and pay some price?" Hagel said, arguing that restoring compulsory military service would force "our citizens to understand the intensity and depth of challenges we face."


The Nebraska Republican added that a draft, which was ended in the early 1970s, would spread the burden of military service in Iraq more equitably among various social strata.


"Those who are serving today and dying today are the middle class and lower middle class," he observed.


The call to consider a imposing a draft comes just days after the Pentagon (news - web sites) moved to extend the missions of some 20,000 of the 135,000 US troops in Iraq.


Some critics of the US-led occupation complain that military planners used too few troops to subdue Iraq, and insist that more military muscle will be needed to restore order.


The US-led military coalition was put under further strain by the announcement this week by coalition members Spain and Honduras that they would withdraw their military contingents from Iraq.


Meanwhile, witnesses at the hearing, including academics and former US officials, expressed concern about ongoing flareups of violence in Iraq this month -- the bloodiest yet for US troops.


"I think it's clear that pressures in Iraq have reached the boiling point," said Samuel Berger, national security adviser during the Bill Clinton (news - web sites) administration, who called for an increase in troops there, and a "genuine, non-grudging effort to internationalize the enterprise in Iraq, both military and civilian."


"We've got to be prepared to give up our hammerlock on decision making in exchange for genuine burden sharing."


Richard Perle, a former White House adviser who currently serves as a fellow at a conservative think tank, advised against adding troops or extending the date of handover of Iraqi sovereignty beyond the currently-set June 30 date.


"It is essential that we not delay the handover of sovereignty set for the end of June, even if there is continuing violence by those who know they have no place in a decent, democratic Iraq," he said.


Perle also warned against entrusting the United Nations (news - web sites) with the post-occupation administration of Iraq, saying UN involvement should be kept at "an absolute minimum."


"A large UN contingent in Iraq ... would do more harm than good," Perle said.


"It would discourage the assumption of sovereignty by Iraqis themselves. It would drain resources urgently needed for the development of Iraq's economy," Perle said.


A senior Democrat meanwhile, lashed out at the White House for failing to send a top administration official to appear before the panel.


"I think it is outrageous that the administration has not provided every witness we've asked for," said Senator Joseph Biden, the highest-ranking Democrat on the committee.

"The fact that they are not prepared to send a witness means that they are either totally incompetent and they don't have anything to tell us ... or they're refusing to allow us to fulfill our constitutional responsibility" of congressional oversight, Biden said.

The committee's Republican chairman, Richard Lugar, also slammed the White House for "inadequate planning and communication related to Iraq."
 

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Nothing shows what your government really thinks of you like enslavement.

Repubs want the draft, demos want "mandatory volunteerism"... and both want higher taxes.
 

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The military says they don't need it unless something catastrophic happened.

They say they have 2.2 million active and reserved to handle things the way they are. I've also read that the more people have signed up in the last 3 years than needed.
 

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Custer said:
Any proposal on the draft is for political purposes, not military.
You hit that nail on the head!
 

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I thought the reintroduction of the draft might put me in combat boots in El Salvador back in the 1980's. NO, I wouldn't have gone because Vietnam was still a fresh memory and this looked like a Central American Vietnam to me (i.e., no way to win). So, I'd be a hypocrite to call for the draft now.

What we DO need is to wake up REAL fast and realize that our military is always training to fight the LAST war, not the current one. We need a new strategy for dealing with an unconventional enemy that does not attack us with conventional tactics.

Until we do that, we may as well invite Russian veterans of Afghanistan to our congressional hearings that will inevitably result when the situation in Iraq is STILL deadly a year from now.
 

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I just remembered something:

I read or heard a news report that the Israelis are thinking of putting vials of pig blood on potential suicide bomber targets like buses. Supposedly, if a Muslim touches a pig or part of a pig before he dies, he is forever forbidden from entering heaven.

THIS is what I mean about unconventional warfare. (Are you listening, Rumsfeld?).

The day we issue pork-blood-tipped bullets to our soldiers, I'll once again have hope that we STILL GOT IT! :headspin:
 

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The military says they don't need it unless something catastrophic happened.

They say they have 2.2 million active and reserved to handle things the way they are. I've also read that the more people have signed up in the last 3 years than needed.
this is one reason that the airforce is trying to downsize 16000 troops right now. They say they have to many in some career fields, but the funny thing is they are still trying to get some career fields to be manned with enough troops. The Air Force times (a newspaper) did an article on this, plus there is a lot of discussion on the local mil. base about this.
 

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I for one hope they don't draft. Thanks to Klinton, we've got a small military. The dem's drew down too far in the early 90's after the Gulf War. Zoid, you're right, the military ALWAYS prep's to fight the last war. I would know after 30+ years working them.
 
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