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WooHoo! :woo: Got the Tiger today. This if the first Drag clone that I have ever seen in person. I'm surpised by how light it feels. The way the action works is also interesting, much different than the piston of the AK.

Once I get it paid for, I hope to get some accessories
Vented military handguards
Several 10rd SVD mags
Bipod
Russian optics (still undecided on what exactly)

No range report until I get the optics. I do hope to go through a few rounds with the sites this weekend just to see that it cycles fine.
 

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Nice rifle! www.freedomoptics.com has plenty of optics for it, as do other sites.

I have only ever seen one of these in person, and that was back in 1993. I don't believe they're being imported anymore, unless something changed in the last few years.

Not to rain on your parade, but an article in the defunct magazine Modern Gun from back in the '90's strongly suggested that whoever buys this firearm also have some spare firing pins.

It's not that they necessarily are prone to breakage, but the firing pin is somewhat less robust than the AK firing pin. Supposedly the Russians maintain a policy of changing the firing pin every 2,000 rounds or so.

Other than that I've heard nothing but good about the rifle. Good purchase, and a rarity! Supposedly the person who bought the one I saw in 1993 paid between $1,500 and $1,800 for it.
 

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I was checking out both Freedom Optics, Tantal, and even my local FFL. I want Soviet for sure, but should I go with 4X, 6X, 8X, or 4-8X variable? I'm leaning toward the latter but not until I find out more about it.

I think the Tigers were only imported in 93 and 94. Rumor has it that Russia is in negotiations with the US trying to get a list of rifles unbanned. The Tiger could be on the list...may not.

I have not heard about the firing pin, but I will see if I can find out anymore about them. Now the NDM in 308 did have some recall, not sure if that is related or not. I have read that only 150grain and less bullets are to be used, so it is evidently more fragile than an AK...but isn't everything? :)

As for value, I got a sweet deal. I was not even ready to buy but when this came up for $900 I could not turn it down. Cheapest I have seen on sell in the past 6months was for $1300. It did not even have the military style buttstock. Currently two are up on sturmgewehr.com Both are over $1600!
 

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I believe the recall on NDM's had to do with installing a spring-loaded firing pin.

It is extremely dangerous to shoot Boxer-primed ammo in an SVD that has a free-floated firing pin. Don't do it! The rifle can slam fire. Your rifle will have a free-floated firing pin, so you'll have to stick to ComBloc ammo with harder Berdan primers.

As for optics, the magnification is up to you. I don't remember the "official" magnification for scopes issued with the SVD, but there are any number of sources for this info.

Sounds like you definitely got a deal! You might want to treat it like King Tut's treasures so it retains its value even if you decide to shoot it. I'm not suggesting you make it a closet queen, just that it's such a rarity it makes sense to only take it out under controlled conditions, etc.

A buddy of mine didn't do that with a pre-ban HK91, and years later he found out that his rifle could have been worth a lot more had he left it in near-mint condition.

(Gee, I just can't stop spitting out free unsolicited advice--I'll shut up now). :)
 

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ZOID ZODIAN said:
I believe the recall on NDM's had to do with installing a spring-loaded firing pin.
Yes that's correct, the free-float pin on NDM-86's could slam-fire .308 ammo. Never heard of 7.62x54r slam fires.

ALL the info is up here:

http://www.dragunov.net

also, a really good source for the current-issue synthetic furniture is here:

http://www.rusmilitary.com
 

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I was waiting for the picture. Looks Great.
Working a lot of OT and didn't get home until late last night. I hope to get an outdoor pic in the next few days. Additional pics will be posted with the addition of accessories :smile:

Thanks, BTW
 

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Hard to make wallpapers out of low res pics :wink: Not that my pics is anywere close to that quality. I'm lucky enough to have a hi-speed connection, plenty of HD space, and run my monitor at somewhat hi resolutions. The bigger the pic the better.

But I do know where your coming from. It is a tad too wide. As Britney says "woops, I did it again" :D
 

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Congratulations on your new addition! Too bad they didn't flood the market like MAK90's, I'd love to have one myself. I recall the full page ad in one of the gun rags back then but still have never seen one in person.

Very nice! :cheers:
 

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Evil Walks,
Thanks, I'm really pysched about it. I had given up on getting one until I saw this. Too good to pass up.

Gunnysmith,
Very nice looking pair. How do they shoot? I read some reports that the Romak3/PSL shoots better than the Tiger.
 

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The Romak likes the lighter bullets
The tigr likes them heavier.
Then they are about even
I read that the Tiger should not use bullets over 150grain. Does that sound familiar?
 

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I have a Romak111 , I have only used 200 grain wolf and it has done very well, How would I decide if I should shoot the 146 grain instead?? will either one damage the rifle??
 

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The Romak has a trigger and action very similar to the AK. I don't think it has the same restrictions as found on the Tiger, SVD, & NDM rifles.

http://www.rusmilitary.com/images/svd_parts.jpg
Take a look at the link above. Notice how the bolt carrier does not have the attached gas piston. Instead it is pushed back by a thin rod. I believe that is the piece which can be damaged by using too high of a grain weight bullet.
 

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This whole post reminds me of a running joke my buddies and I used to have:

"A fine rifle induces that feeling of ecstasy commonly known as a BORE-gasm."

:woot:
 

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mbakercad
thanks for the link. I am going to post the question in the weapons discution forum so I do not hijack this thread. :)
 
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