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Custer, I'm in the Columbus area. Without specifics this would be a matter of false arrest and more. I know a real dog but he no longer practices law as he went into politics(go figure, hopefully he'll call back soon). This is a serious issue and I appreciate any and all replies.
 

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I don't know anyone in the Columbus area.

Do some reading of the Dispatch articles on higher profile crimes and see if someone's name comes up frequently as the defense guy. A lot of the best bulldogs are the ones retained by cops who have been charged with using excessive force.

You want a guy with a reputation that he will go to trial and not just plead down all the time. If he is known as a guy who will go to trial, he will be in a position to get better deals when it is not tried.
 

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Custer said:
I don't know anyone in the Columbus area.

Do some reading of the Dispatch articles on higher profile crimes and see if someone's name comes up frequently as the defense guy. A lot of the best bulldogs are the ones retained by cops who have been charged with using excessive force.

You want a guy with a reputation that he will go to trial and not just plead down all the time. If he is known as a guy who will go to trial, he will be in a position to get better deals when it is not tried.
Good line of thought there. I know one by name but I've never actually met him, hoping my one good contact comes through on this. I spent the past 9 hours with my hands cuffed to a leather belt around my waist, denied both bail and a phone call. Started with one of eight village police officers from a town with a population of less than 600. Rent-a-cops, ticket patrol...whatever you wanna call 'em. I want to own them and the mayor who bought them.

Never been a fan of cops, I generally refer to them as pigs. More now than ever before. These jokers can't get real jobs in law enforcement so they stoop to one step higher than security duty with their limited "education".

I honestly believe everyone should be locked up once in life, even if just for an hour or two, but if it's not justified those responsible should receive "punishment". Here's a clue, don't wear camo. I was asked at least 5 or 6 times if I was a "militia member". Pigs suck.
 

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Not all criminal defense guys are adept at trial work for a civil action. However, he might have a partner who specializes in that or he might have a relationship with a civil action trial lawyer from another firm.

Good luck. Sounds like you have a mess.
 

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OUch....but ever heard the expression: Go fight city hall?.....not advisable unless you have mucho money and expect to live someplace else.
 

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OUch....but ever heard the expression: Go fight city hall?.....not advisable unless you have mucho money and expect to live someplace else.
This is a matter of principle, and hey, I've always wanted to live in the Carolinas...

Seriously though, this police department has already had numerous complaints filed with the state attorney general. They've been documented writing traffic violations up to seven miles from their jurisdiction. A friend has video of them cruising the village at night in "stealth mode" (no lights on whatsoever). We're talking about typical, small-town rural America. These guys haven't put a dent in vandalism and petty theft. They have zero influence on our biggest problem, domestic violence. They write tickets. Lots and lots of tickets. In November the people spoke and chose not to vote for their operating levy. The result, even more tickets. A Columbus suburb formally known as New Rome got away with such nonsense for better than 20 years, guess those fellas decided to work here since their force was shut down.

If I've got anything to say in the matter they'll never be a nuisance again.
 

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Hmmmmmm...Well, being restrained for nine hours, especially if you were in the police detention facility, certainly seems excessive. However, if you were being threatening (you already admitted to not liking cops, but how far did you take that dislike?) or fighting, ect, they may have somewhat of a leg to stand on. (I'm not taking sides here, just the facts sir.)
What were the circumstances here? Drunk, disorderly,fighting, routine traffic stop gone awry,jaywalking, what were you charged with (You were charged with something, right?)
Many states won't have a problem with you being detained for such a short period of time, as the "investigation could be ongoing". Bail, my friend, is set by a court, not the police. Were you brought before a court?
Now, being held "incommunicado" is another story, ESPECIALLY if you asked for counsel and were not allowed to contact an attorney. This is a very severe violation of the US Federal Code (Title II??? I think)that deals with civil rights. If this is the case, I STRONGLY suggest you contact the US Dept of Justice (Start with FBI).
The VERY FIRST THING you need to do is sit down with pad and paper, concentrate very hard, and DOCUMENT everything that happened from just before you had your first contact with the officer, to the minute you left the station. Try to remember statements made by officers, all officers names that you know, statements made by yourself, circumstances surrounding the contact between the officer and yourself, ect. BE THOUROUGH. This will help you remember what happened in better detail, and get it down and solid while it's still fresh in your mind.
I guarantee they have already done so.
 

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Thanks for the replies and advice/info. Thankfully my attorney friend (former client of mine) returned my call yesterday evening and seems to think the situation can be very easily resolved. This was as mentioned, a simple traffic stop gone awry. I'll post more after my day in court.

It's a shame, we used to have a small, decent police department that consisted of local guys. One died, the other retired and the remaining local wasn't generating enough revenue to satisfy the mayor. We now have 1 full-time officer and 7 part-time/volunteer officers, it's a tad bizarre. I've never so much as gotten a speeding ticket in this town. Nowdays it's nearly impossible to drive through town without seeing someone pulled over, at one point last Fall there were a record 90+ tickets written within 3 days. This stuff has nothing to do with public safety and hordes of irresponsible drivers, it's all about money. I can guarantee none of what happened last night would have happened with a deputy sheriff or State Trooper.

Some of the local department's antics are downright comical. Awhile back several state and county cops were involved in a high speed chase and our local PD decided to get a piece of the action. A trooper threw out the road spikes in an attempt to get their man. The suspect swerved into the median avoiding the spikes, our "cowboys" managed 4 flat tires...We would be far better served to pay the sheriff's office for increased patrol as several other small municipalities in the area do.
 

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The responsibilty of wearing a badge is a great one. The badge should represent integrity and fairness as well as upholding the law. Most officers bare this responsility greatly, but there are always those that let the authority go to their head and become a "Barney Fife" type of officer. They are the few bad apples that spoil the whole barrel and the reason everyone hates cops.

I once was good friends with a guy and he was a good buddy. A local town needed a cop and he took the job. He then turned into the biggest jerk on the face of the Earth and thought that everyone should bow down to him. It was probably one of these types that caused you the trouble.

I am a big supporter of our policemen(or policewomen), but those that abuse the authority are despicable.
 

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Were you arrested for public intoxication? In some states (not sure about Ohio) you are held until the alcohol is out of your system and no phone calls are allowed (phone calls are to make bail and if intoxicated you can't leave until sober).

I don't know all the facts of your arrest but laws of arrest, bail etc do vary.

Good luck with the process.
 

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Sorry to hear about your run in EW. I too share a distaste with "most" law enforcement. I wish you the best in your pursuit of justice. One story comes to mind in particular.

About 8 years ago, on a Sunday afternoon, my brother (on his way home from church) was dropping off a friend from church. Shortly after returning home, in the middle of Sunday dinner, a knock on the door and there is a guy in plain clothes and a police officer. They need to speak with my brother, so my father and him take the men into the living room. Within a minute, the voice of the plain clothes man begins to raise. This man, was actually an off duty police officer. He ended up whipping out a badge, shoving it in my brothers face, stepping up to him and telling him that he was finished..all in front of my dad and the on duty officer. At this point, the off duty police officer was escorted outside by the on duty officer and some conversation proceeded. Turns out, on the way home, my brother had inadvertently passed this officer jogging. Later down the road, while backing out of the drive way, the jogger and my brother in the car met each other at the end of the drive way. The jogger wasn't actually hit, but they met quite abruptly. The jogger exchanged some vulgar words, and my brother left as he hadn't hit or hurt anyone. When it was all said and done, my brother was charged with quite a few offenses, of which I can remember there were 2 counts of attempted vehicular homicide aggravated assualt. The officer claimed my brother tried to swerve and hit him when he passed him the first time, and also a second time as he backed out of the drive way. My brother was 17 at that time. They didn't book my brother that day, but rather tried to get dirty with it. They came a week later on Monday to arrest him in the middle of class at school. Fortunately, he was on a field trip that day. Bail was set at 30,000 dolllars and my parents house was put up.

To make a long story short, after hiring a big shot lawyer, and thousands and thousands of dollars later, the case was thrown out of court. Needless to say, my parents wanted it to all be over with even though the lawyers pushed them to sue for tarnishing his name. Evidently, my bro passed the wrong guy that day. I don't think I've ever seen a more paranoid cop in my life.
 
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