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The younger generation, ARRRGGGHHHH!!!

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I stopped by the local tire store today to ge new tires on my car, while I was getting waited on 2 young guys in thier early twenties came in and told the counter guy they had a falt and needed some one to put on the spare. he told them it would be about an hour before someone could help them. They were all upset that it would take so long. I said to them do you mean to tell me that two young, healthy guys like you can't muster up enough manliness between the both of you to change a tire? That was really pathetic!

I did offer some helpfull advice, and told them to go across the street to the auto supply store and get a can of fix a flat.

When I was thier age when men were men and cars were junk you had to know how to help yourself. I did a lot of roadside repairs when I was their age, changing water pumps, fuel pumps, generators and even replacde a clutch on the side of the road.

All I can say to all those guys is pull up your pants, put your hat on right and learn to help yourself!!:geezer:
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Yea it's really sad I once did a motor swap on the side of the hwy on my 72 datsun 510 when I was about 20 granted that was only 6 years ago but most people my age are utterly clueless
Don't blame them, blame their dad's and schools. There is no autoshop, there is no wood shop, there are no more welders, fitters, machinists, or mechanics being breed in our schools anymore. I learned that some time ago, as a dad I do all that myself or my boys won't learn it. To many pops are on their asses watching sports to get out into the garage.

I bet most kids haven't a clue what a jack even is. The electives for my sons JR High next year are either art, music or drama. That's great if your a ***, but not if you want to be able to do anything for yourself in the future.

I do believe it is all on purpose, I do believe that it has been in the works for years, we have lost our manufacturing jobs in this nation and it really doesn't matter, there is no one to work them.

A machinist now pushes a button, a programmer does everything else. As a conventional machinist by trade I am a relic, a dinoasuar and i'm in my 40's. Just wait to see what the next generation brings......nanny state is primed and ready!!!!!
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Don't blame them, blame their dad's and schools. There is no autoshop, there is no wood shop, there are no more welders, fitters, machinists, or mechanics being breed in our schools anymore. I learned that some time ago, as a dad I do all that myself or my boys won't learn it. To many pops are on their asses watching sports to get out into the garage.
i do believe you are right my pops taught me to weld when I was 8 or 9 I started helping him in the oilfields on weekends when I was about 13 and he also taught me how to wrench we rebuilt a small block for his 67 camaro when I was in middle school I got my crane certs when I was 18 up to 90 ton and now I'm looking into learning how to run a mill and lathe
I stopped by the local tire store today to ge new tires on my car, while I was getting waited on 2 young guys in thier early twenties came in and told the counter guy they had a falt and needed some one to put on the spare. he told them it would be about an hour before someone could help them. They were all upset that it would take so long. I said to them do you mean to tell me that two young, healthy guys like you can't muster up enough manliness between the both of you to change a tire? That was really pathetic!

I did offer some helpfull advice, and told them to go across the street to the auto supply store and get a can of fix a flat.

When I was thier age when men were men and cars were junk you had to know how to help yourself. I did a lot of roadside repairs when I was their age, changing water pumps, fuel pumps, generators and even replacde a clutch on the side of the road.

All I can say to all those guys is pull up your pants, put your hat on right and learn to help yourself!!:geezer:
Amen to that! Kids need to "man up" these days.

"Been there done all of that and more" :rofl: My "best" was replacing a freeze plug that opened up in the middle of winter in the parking lot of the college campus because I naively believed the 50:50 mix recommendations. I rebuilt that entire engine in auto shop the year before! Then I got to drive home 4 hours without heat because it also destroyed the heater core. That was an awful '81 Chevy pickup. Replaced at least 3 clutches that I can remember in Dad's garage. Nothing like tranny fluid dumping all over your midsection when you're heaving the tranny into place! :sick:



I will say that from my observation of my wife's son, he is pretty much a little bitch and I honestly believe it is because there was never a man in the house. So he acts all tough and cool but "dude, he has awesome hair" - actual thing he said last week!!!! I told him that would make a good T-Shirt. :) So while not trying to justify the girly-man generation, I can see how divorced families can "spawn" the girlie-men. A whole generation of them :(

He isn't afraid to help with yard work when I FINALLY convince him he needs to help out, but don't interfere with his snack time! :) He isn't as girlie-girlie as some of them but he does have FAHBULOUS hair! :D
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Don't blame them, blame their dad's and schools. There is no autoshop, there is no wood shop, there are no more welders, fitters, machinists, or mechanics being breed in our schools anymore. I learned that some time ago, as a dad I do all that myself or my boys won't learn it. To many pops are on their asses watching sports to get out into the garage.

I bet most kids haven't a clue what a jack even is. The electives for my sons JR High next year are either art, music or drama. That's great if your a ***, but not if you want to be able to do anything for yourself in the future.

I do believe it is all on purpose, I do believe that it has been in the works for years, we have lost our manufacturing jobs in this nation and it really doesn't matter, there is no one to work them.

A machinist now pushes a button, a programmer does everything else. As a conventional machinist by trade I am a relic, a dinoasuar and i'm in my 40's. Just wait to see what the next generation brings......nanny state is primed and ready!!!!!
Don't you dare call art, music, and drama ***. I taught "myself" how to twist wrenches. I have been in the parts business since before you were born. I can work on 1950 hudsons, 60 corvairs, 70 torinos. 80 vans. 90 aerostars, and 2000 hondas. I can do this because I want to. I am not a relic or a dianosaur because I have had enough guts to adapt, not sit around whining.
Your son isn't even old enough to have a drivers licence in Jr. high. He is barely old enough to actually notice girls. If you have to blame something blame this damn computer. The kids won't get off their flat asses to do anything. They'll stay up all night playing on it and fall asleep in school.

After houurs I an a tech in a theater group. I put all my wrench twisting education building sets and engineering tricks.

P.S. I learned to use a lathe when I was 8 years old and could "read" the book to set the gears to cut threads.
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he is pretty much a little bitch and I honestly believe it is because there was never a man in the house.
:rofl: Tell us what you really think. :)

I can't exactly say much on the matter, other than don't loose hope too much, I'm 16 and I work on stuff. Hell, earlier today my new glasses frames broke, never liked them anyways, so I took the lenses out and used the bench grinder to fit them to the old frames that I still had.

Okay, I'm an exception but I know what you mean, in "know your car" [the only autoshop class offered] everyone's either failing because they refuse to work on things [Oh no, I spent $50 on this t-shirt, I can't get it even a little dirty], or they are arrogant without a cause [they act like they know everything, then instantly "forget" how to do anything once they get out of the classroom]... There are 2 other kids in the class [of about 30] that seem to be doing pretty good, no doubt because they have the good sense to shut up and listen...

Before you say kids ain't manly because they don't have father figures in their lives, I only see my dad every other weekend, and most wednesdays. I think it is more of the fact that people are babied to the point that they don't even think to fix things themselves, even stigmatizing people who bother to fix things themselves... I was talking with a friend about my new videocard and someone came into the conversation with something about their fancy-pants computer they just paid $4,000 for. I responded with "well hell, you coulda built the same thing for $1k or so." All they could respond with was "Hah, you're too poor to buy a computer, so you gotta make your own!" :grumble:

Luckily there are enough of us out there who still DO things, most of my friends are similar to me, or [I was speechless when I was told this] wish they could do what I do. Some are willing to learn, you just gotta have the classes available, which too many schools don't...

What were we talking about again? :lol:
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Change a tire? I remember planning to change an engine. Several of us planned a trip from Lawrence, Kansas to San Diego, California about 1972. A friend had a VW microbus that seemed to fill the bill in hauling a bunch of late-teens/early20's adults half-way across the country.

But, the VW micro had a bad habit of blowing up in mountain crossings. So, I suggested we build a spare and tie it onto the shelf above the engine compartment. Sure enough, crossing the Sierra Nevadas coming back, it threw a rod.

It took us less than an hour to swap the two engines and be on our way. Those air-cooled VW's were dead simple on engine swaps.
Those air-cooled VW's were dead simple on engine swaps.
Sure, as long as you have an extra elbow joint so you can feed the throttle cable through the fan shroud in a Beetle. Might be easier with a van, though.
I stopped by the local tire store today to ge new tires on my car, while I was getting waited on 2 young guys in thier early twenties came in and told the counter guy they had a falt and needed some one to put on the spare. he told them it would be about an hour before someone could help them. They were all upset that it would take so long. I said to them do you mean to tell me that two young, healthy guys like you can't muster up enough manliness between the both of you to change a tire? That was really pathetic!

I did offer some helpfull advice, and told them to go across the street to the auto supply store and get a can of fix a flat.

When I was thier age when men were men and cars were junk you had to know how to help yourself. I did a lot of roadside repairs when I was their age, changing water pumps, fuel pumps, generators and even replacde a clutch on the side of the road.

All I can say to all those guys is pull up your pants, put your hat on right and learn to help yourself!!:geezer:
I agree with everything you said.
Now!
When I had a flat tire on my first car in 1966 my Dad showed me how to fix it. ONCE ONLY!!
After that I was on my own.
It was the same with any other car problems that came up. He showed me how to fix it the first time, then I could either do it myself or leave it broken.
On my second car I swapped the manifold, carb, cam, and rear gears myself. He never admitted it, but he was proud of me.
Kids today aren't even given the chance to learn how to do something by getting their hands dirty because IT'S ALL DONE FOR THEM.
Idiot parents have ingrained the notion into their kids that if you either have enough money, are in a "disadvantaged" group, or whine enough, someone will eventually fix everything for you.
Consequently we have an entire generation of people who haven't the slightest idea how to take care of themselves.
Hell, The people running the Government right now fall into that category. That's why they are pushing the "Nanny State" on everyone. Because they can't do sh*t for themselves and have no concept of what it's like for us normal people who can, and do, take care of ourselves.
It's only going to get worse guys!!!
Mike
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:rofl: Tell us what you really think. :)

I can't exactly say much on the matter, other than don't loose hope too much, I'm 16 and I work on stuff. Hell, earlier today my new glasses frames broke, never liked them anyways, so I took the lenses out and used the bench grinder to fit them to the old frames that I still had.

Okay, I'm an exception but I know what you mean, in "know your car" [the only autoshop class offered] everyone's either failing because they refuse to work on things [Oh no, I spent $50 on this t-shirt, I can't get it even a little dirty], or they are arrogant without a cause [they act like they know everything, then instantly "forget" how to do anything once they get out of the classroom]... There are 2 other kids in the class [of about 30] that seem to be doing pretty good, no doubt because they have the good sense to shut up and listen...

Before you say kids ain't manly because they don't have father figures in their lives, I only see my dad every other weekend, and most wednesdays. I think it is more of the fact that people are babied to the point that they don't even think to fix things themselves, even stigmatizing people who bother to fix things themselves... I was talking with a friend about my new videocard and someone came into the conversation with something about their fancy-pants computer they just paid $4,000 for. I responded with "well hell, you coulda built the same thing for $1k or so." All they could respond with was "Hah, you're too poor to buy a computer, so you gotta make your own!" :grumble:

Luckily there are enough of us out there who still DO things, most of my friends are similar to me, or [I was speechless when I was told this] wish they could do what I do. Some are willing to learn, you just gotta have the classes available, which too many schools don't...

What were we talking about again? :lol:
Great post!! Good for you!! There might be hope for us yet!!
Sure, as long as you have an extra elbow joint so you can feed the throttle cable through the fan shroud in a Beetle. Might be easier with a van, though.
I always started the throttle cable before bolting the engine to the transaxle, while the engine was still 6 inches or so out. Vans were easier overall, more room and less in the way. I was building bug engines as a side-line at the time, helping put me through school.
I don't expect much from a generation of punks who wear their trousers around their knees, stocking caps in the summertime & have more money in piercings & tattoos than they earn.It's like an old carnival freak show everywhere you look these days.
In Thailand and Cambodia the 10 year old kids change the tires on the small bikes people are always getting flats on.
$1.25 American got me a rear fixed tire.
Took the little guy about 15 minutes to remove the tire and fix the flat.
After school. They work in the small repair shops doing menial labor. As they grow up and stay with the job they start doing motor repairs.
I slipped the little guy a $2.00 tip American. Probably a days pay for the kid.
I don't expect much from a generation of punks who wear their trousers around their knees, stocking caps in the summertime & have more money in piercings & tattoos than they earn.It's like an old carnival freak show everywhere you look these days.

True! I like, and am going to use, the "Carnival" reference! :)
when i was a kid all we had was pulpwood trucks. the smallest one was a f-600. those tube type 10.00x20s had a flat like every other day. no air wrenches either. so you just had to get happy with those 10 hole budd wheels and a 4way lug wrench!

seems like they had about 350ft lbs per lug too. that is if they weren't stuck.

really fun after cutting down and bucking trees with a 930 jred chainsaw all day.

one thing it did do was drive the DIs nuts a few years later. everybody else passing out from the heat i just kept on trucking.
"the smallest one was a f-600" But was it not fun banging through the gears with the five speed tranny & two speed rear end button??? Heh....Heh
Dang, my sisters can change their own flats. What a bunch of wussies.
I think the kids today have too much free time. From about kindergarden on I would get loaned out to my aunt and uncles horse farm feeding and tending the horses and goats after school. I think I was 7 or so when they had me start bucking bales of hay in the summer. I did that until I was 10 and got a part time job with the city ( I don't even think thats legal anymore). Perhaps the kids today would be less inclined to do stupid things to themselves trying to be different and unique if they were a little more tired from good old manual labor.
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