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Wasr-10/63 Jaming Question

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Hello every one, Iam new to this forum and new to AK47

Few days ego I purchased a Romanian Wars10/63 and used Barnaul fmj bullets.
I did not oil the gun because the store stated that it was oiled at the factory. It felt more like grease then anything, and even after touching the mags my hands were yellow blackish color. So anyway I go to the range and start shooting. First 20 rounds were fine then it started. One in every 5 rounds would not get loaded into the chamber and the bolt would get stuck mid way. It would push the bullet and get stock, not just stock and bullet free flowing. After I loaded another mag with 30 rounds it started jamming more often, sometimes 2 shots, one jam.
The guy at the range said it might be because the gun is new and I should give it a good oil down. So I went home stripped the whole thing down, used a hopper#9 solvent and then rem-oil spray. I did not take it to the range yet (waiting for paycheck to buy more ammo), but is this a common problem, should I worry, or do you think the oiling solved it? Also if it helps I can make the cocking mechanism get stuck in the middle with out any bullets (after the oiling)





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What you experienced is common. Give it a couple hundred rounds and the problem should go away.
Thank you Sir. By the way any comments of the wood work? I stained it my self, originally it came very very ugly...
Nice looking gun. Wood looks very nice.
I think there may have been a reason that the kits that came with the AK's had a oil bottle in it. May suggest that they need to be lubed every once in awhile. I would think that every gun that has moving parts needs some lube to make it operate correctly.
The wood looks much, much better than stock WASR wood. Most stock wood looks rough and dry. I like how you kept the WASR look but spit-shined it. Overall, a very nice example!
Thank you. Yeah this baby is very very shiny. Hehe there was no oil bottle that came with it and yes I know all about oiling weapons. I do have a Russian 9mm Makarov handgun. The reason I did not oil it, is because the guy at the gunshop said it was oil'd at the factory. But it was more of a grease then oil. I will give it another try this coming week.
Probably cosmoline. The wood looks nice, you did a good job on it. Based on where your stuck carrier is sitting it looks like the hammer might be catching it a little too much. Eventually the parts will kind of self polish but if you wanted to speed it along a little, you could polish, the shiny part of the hammer that you can see when you remove the top cover. (w/ hammer in cocked position)
Also, your gas tube take down lever needs to sit in that detent on the rear sight base. The position it's in now might cause a downward pressure on the tube.
I was going to ask about the furniture on that, you did a great job. Thanks for the pics
A bit of advice.
ALWAYS strip, clean and oil a Century WASR before shooting it.
I have three of them and the bolt assembly, rails, trigger group, and barrel all had shavings on, and in, them from the conversion to double stack configuration by Century.
The factory applied oil acts like cutting oil and the shavings become ground into the moving parts.
The results are usually what you have described.
After some firing the parts start binding because of the "shaving paste" produced when the oil and metal filings are ground against the moving parts.
After cleaning and oiling properly my WASR's have never failed to feed, function, or fire. :thumbup1:
Mike
So if I had shavings in there and then I did a proper cleaning will my guns function restore eventually ? Maybe after 500 rounds like every one has mentioned ?
So if I had shavings in there and then I did a proper cleaning will my guns function restore eventually ? Maybe after 500 rounds like every one has mentioned ?
I would advise that you thoroughly clean your WASR. If the stoppages go away you've solved your problem.
If they don't go away you have eliminated debris as the cause for the stoppages.
Cleaning a firearm never hurts.
Sometimes finding an answer to a problem is a matter of eliminating possible causes until you arrive at an issue that makes the problem disappear. :)
Mike
IMHO, you should always clean and inspect a new firarm before it's first use, no matter what brand or type, but even more especially if it's a Century product. Just my 2 cents.
Slightly off topic but I can't seem to upload nice pics like yours.What program do you use? thanks, G.W.
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Well great looking gun at anyrate.
Slightly off topic but I can't seem to upload nice pics like yours.What program do you use? thanks, G.W.
I use Google Picasa to upload the pictures to google server and then I copy the like and use "{IMG} http://youpic.com{/IMG}" Except replace {} with []
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Ok so I did another 160 rounds and it got a little better but not by mush. I got frustrated on took it back. I traded my ak47 for ak74 for the same price. Any comments, suggestions ?









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Umm about what??? :D

Other then the basic furniture it looks nice, and it's cheaper to shoot right now with the price of surplus ammo.
If you like to shoot 223/556 you'll love this.

Oh, if you want to dress it up with wood, Apex has a good deal on used Bulgy 74 stock set
My only issue with the AK 74 comes from the first hand accounts from some of the Russian troops during the Russian/Afghan War. They said that the 7.62X39 mm round was a much better man stopper than the 5.45X39 mm round. They also said that the 5.45 round tended to keyhole at moderate ranges. Other than that It should be as reliable as any other Kalashnikov platform rifle. The ammo is noticeably cheaper, which is a plus.:)
Mike
Thanks guys. I have not shot it yet, I will on Monday.
I am not so much conserned with man stopping power. I do have a Russian 9mm Makarov handgun and thats what I use for my house. It it came down to it I am sure 30 rounds of ak74 ammo would and should stop some one :hyper: . I just want a toy for the range and cheap ammo to use.
Thanks guys. I have not shot it yet, I will on Monday.
I am not so much conserned with man stopping power. I do have a Russian 9mm Makarov handgun and thats what I use for my house. It it came down to it I am sure 30 rounds of ak74 ammo would and should stop some one :hyper: . I just want a toy for the range and cheap ammo to use.
Let us know how it does.
I'm interested in getting one just to add another horse to my stable.
If the keyhole issue has been fixed I might trade a WASR for one. :biggrin:
Mike
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