[Tengu]

What is a Xebec Press Kit? What does it look like? What does it do? Where do you get them?

 

[Chiroone]

It is used to press the AK barrel into and out of the trunion block.
It consists of barrel blocks, trunion push block, a barrel push rod, I think that is it.

You can get them by emailing Xebec, I think he has an ad on the other board for his 8 th run of these things.

They are worth every penny he is asking for them.

 

[Toten Kopf]

It's the answer to any AK builder's prayers, it's moose meat, the cat's meow, absolutey stellar. Be the envy of any AK builder, get the Xebec Barrel Tool.

It makes the job of removing barrel pins, barrel, front sight, gas block or installing the same much easier.

The picture isn't mine but I used it as a "WISH LIST" (until I bought my own). Far left is plinker7.62's rivet jig, center is Xebec's barrel removal/installation tool, and last but not least far right is 7.62x39's trigger guard rivet jig.

As you will note, these tools aren't necessary for the AK- BIY'er but it sure as hell makes it a lot easier and more professional looking. There are other jigs available (mag dimple jig, x-y axis jigs, ect) but these are just added detail jigs.

Just a side note: 7.62x39 (trigger guard rivet jig) is right here on GunCo. If you want one give him a shout.

 

[yosuthnmasa]

dont forget about machman's dimple jig..it's about $40 and if you've got a press, it puts the dimples in the metal that help stabilize the magazine.

 

[Toten Kopf]

I just got the last mag dimple jig from machman, couldn't find the first ones I bought (must of packed them away) and now I'm starting the AMD-63 buils so I needed another set. He said I was lucky because this was the last.

Don't know if he is going to produce anymore. If he isn't, anyone who has a set should feel very lucky.

 

[yosuthnmasa]

I guess...I'm debating on going to my local machine shop and finding out how much he could manufacture these for a piece. They don't seem really hard to make if you've got the right tools. Wonder if others would be interested, or do you think most everyone is saturated with these?

 

[Asher]

all the tools in toten's pic are on my wish list, i just pressed out my barrel a last week and it was sorta a pain im sure the jig will help out alot on the installation, i was looking to buying sheets blank and experimenting with a stainless sheet to make a receiver out of... does anyone have dimensions for the dimple jig as machman is not making them anymore i can have some made, i have access to a full machine/weld shop so it shouldnt be a problem, thanks

 

[Winn R]

I'm fortunate enough to have those pieces, and yes some guys up this weekend built one where these tools came in handy, but mine are beat to pieces. They suffer from operator error.

xebecs block, of mine, suffers from an expanded pin hole where the steel pin eats the aluminum. Most people set up so the pin goes through the hole.

The lower leg of the trunnion pusher has now collapsed and gets filled in with metal blocks. Kind of like leggos without the locking pieces. The pin pusher looks like the leaning tower.

Franks rivet sqooser operation was much improved by a set up which didn't leave it airbourne--when I explained my wisdom his response was "duh!!"

Max's gadget I have not torn up yet. Solid steel no moving parts, kinda like a rock. My kind of toy.

 

[Asher]

do you have any pics of mach's jig?

 

[Bluejack]

Toten:
It's that my pictures ?????? yes, these tools help save a lot time and all my ak looks like factory build, but like he said, you don't need all these tools to build ak, good luck

 

[Asher]

is he "machman" on this board? i will search for his name here and send him a message

 

[rlrsk8r]

Drawings of the Jig

It's the answer to any AK builder's prayers, it's moose meat, the cat's meow, absolutey stellar. Be the envy of any AK builder, get the Xebec Barrel Tool.

SNIP

Some time back, somebody (I lost track of it since I had not built an AK then) posted not only pics but dimensioned drawings for Plinker's rivet press. I don't even know which boarrd I got them from. I downloaded the drawings and forgot about them. As time went on, I got interested in AKs and decided to build one. As I was scrounging thru my computer I found the pics and drawings of the jig and the 'light came on' - I realized what I had ! I have a machine shop and can build the tools I need to assemble AKs.

So the other day I was looking at what I had and was wondering if there are more than 2 adaptors for the press. I have a drawing of "adaptor A" and a drawing of "adaptor B". I have some other pics of his jig showing other adaptors which is why I am asking the question.

Roger
Central (Bush Country) Ohio

 

[vulcan762]

With the the exception of Plinkers Rivet Jig, most of the other jigs can be fabricated relatively easily. The raw materials can be found at the local scrap yards for cheap and the rest is your time. Of course, you have to ask yourself how much is your time worth. Even though I could, I wouldnt even attempt to make Plinkers rivet jig because his finished product, which I own, is of excellent quality and invloves a great deal of work to produce. Its well worth the money. I did however make my own versions of the other jigs and have used them very successfully. But bear in mind I have excellent mechanical ability and more advanced tools than most people have laying around.

Overall I think we are very lucky that these people think up and produce these handy little tools at obviously slim, if any, profit margins.

 

[rlrsk8r]

With the the exception of Plinkers Rivet Jig, most of the other jigs can be fabricated relatively easily. The raw materials can be found at the local scrap yards for cheap and the rest is your time. Of course, you have to ask yourself how much is your time worth. Even though I could, I wouldnt even attempt to make Plinkers rivet jig because his finished product, which I own, is of excellent quality and invloves a great deal of work to produce. Its well worth the money. snip

I have all the materials and big machinery to cut and weld metal with. Yes, I can do most of it easily. I have built other jigs and put together things like 1919s and Stens with no problem. I also have done an AK with the muffler gun but am dissatisfied with the results so I am going to build another press jig for the AK.

Unfortunately, when I DL'd the jig, I din't copy the url so I have no leads on who/where. Yes, I agree about the time/vs/$$$$ comparison but I plan to build several AKs so the jig to me is worth the time I put into it. I also will more than likely add some modifications to it.

For example, Plinkers AK jig uses a round ram. I don't know how he keeps the punch aligned with the anvil so I plan to implement a keyway in mine. I have some other minor ideas that I will play with 'on the fly'. When I do, I will post them here for others to think/talk about.

And I can and do appreciate the small amount of profit(?) that the makers of the tooling end up with. In fact, I wonder how they make ANY profit on some of this stuff.

Some of the tooling we use comes at the 'very high price' when it comes to "I need it NOW" so it puts the whole project at a standstill. There are those of us who are fortunate enough to be able to make our own tooling and we don't worry about lead-times. We only have to worry about the factor of "when am I going to have the time to build my...." But at least we can fab some tonite and some next week and some,,,,

Also, I do like the idea of building everything myself. I take great pride in that kind of stuff. However, when it comes to our types of toys, I will build the first one all by myself and play with it. But subsequent ones will be from a 100% receiver so I can pass it on to that someone who thinks he 'needs' it more than he needs the money in his pocket. So the casual sale is covered that way. I don't have to serialize it and put MY name and MY address on it. Yes, I am/was the 'owner of record' on a number of toys but I can always say that I got tired of/needed some money/YadaYada and sold that toy.

However, there are some toys that I will not/never part with so I don't mind buiding a completely 'off-paper' toy. I have a zero-percent AR forging for that purpose.

Roger

 

[Winn R]

100% receiver so I can pass it on to that someone who thinks he 'needs' it more than he needs the money in his pocket. So the casual sale is covered that way. I don't have to serialize it and put MY name and MY address on it.
Roger

Welcome, I see by your post numbers that you are new.

I'm not at all up on the fine points of legalize so someone else may step in and clarify, however, it sounds as if you build intending to sell.

Is that kosher?

 

[rlrsk8r]

Welcome, I see by your post numbers that you are new.

I'm not at all up on the fine points of legalize so someone else may step in and clarify, however, it sounds as if you build intending to sell.

Is that kosher?

Can't say that I'm in it for business but if'n I needs some money, I want to be able to sell what I have built up as a shooter. That's my INTENT. You can't sell something if it doesn't have a serial number and manufacturer's name/address. And the alfabitz people gots to prove intent to market. I'm not marketing. I'm just preparing for an inevitable money crunch.

Do you have water, food and ammo for when things get tough ? And, are you willing to sell one of your toys that you folded the receiver flat ? Explain how you would go about that ?

Roger

And, yes, I'm new to this board. Been 'round others, tho.

 

[Sangrun Hunter]

The bolt cutter riveting tool is another great one. It answered all my questions on that!

I just bought Cheezytwangs Xebec kit he never used and I cannot wait to get it. It will make like easier.

 

[Quarterbore]

I have the three jigs above as well as the DPH flat bending jig. The Xebec jig excels for butting the barrel back into the front trunion but I have found it to be a real PITA to press in a barrel once the center support and rails are in place... I need to fab a custon piece to help with that job one of these days...

For pulling the barrel, Xecec's tools work but their is another barrel press set made by AK-Builder.com that has some really nice features. Specifically, AK-Builder's set has a bolt with a heavy brass nut that presses the barrel out and it uses a very smart pair of square blocks that are bolted together around the trunion. It is a very robust setup. The other think about the AK-builder set that is very nice is the round piece that mounts to the arbor of your H-press that holds the 1/4-inch pin that is used to press barrels...

I have not bought one of those kits for myself yet but I plan to as the AK-Builder tools cobined with the Xebec tools really provides some exceptional tools to remove and install barrels on an AK!